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In regards to running a system with no Aux fed setup. When I am faced with this I sometimes do this.
I use mostly an 01V96 desk and this is how I add a little depth and punch to Bass Drums and Bass Guitar in live settings.
As the V's Busses have both 4 band parametric with fully adjustable high cut and built in compressor this is what I do. In the case of a bass guitar I assign it alone to a Buss and set the compressor up for some hard compression running on average of 6db's. In the EQ section I use type One eq. Filters set as below.
90hz LPF
H-Mid Q.56 Freq-1.8k Gain -18
L-Mid Q1.4 Freq-530hz Gain -18
Low Q1.6 Freq 63hz Gain +1.4
This gives an Aprox 24db L/R lowpass crossover alignment.
This does give an aprox 6ms of group delay that sometimes works in favor. I even try running more delay in the buss sometimes and it has an interesting effect on the sound as well.
I layer this on top of the Bass guitar channel as needed for effect.
I would guess if you had a spare crossover/eq/compressor at FOH you could bus or post fade Aux send to the crossover,eq/compressor and return to the desk for the same basic setup. The crossover freq you select say 80hz for the lowpass would add bottom and feel like a cranked aux send on an aux fed sub with a system that doesn't have it so configured.
Works for me.
Kindest Regards
Douglas R. Allen
Hello Douglas,
Cool thinking and creative. Great to be able to do it internally on a digi board as well.
As far as carrying an x-over etc.. that is exactly what I do. I carry an EQ (KT DN 410), a compressor (Symetrix 501) and a crossover (BSS FDS 310).
I use this signal string to process my sub send before it goes to the subwoofer regardless of whatever the local company has.
When there is no subs on an aux, I emulate them as you describe and run it back into a point of the signal chain post L and R high pass.
The annoying thing is that systems are still being put out on large scale events without having subs on an aux as an option and the emulation is always inferior to doing it properly.
Dave Rat
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